That's Not The Message

A political strategy podcast about communicating democratic values in the age of populism.
Hosted by Daniela Vancic and Sebastian Rodríguez, it goes beyond ideology into the craft of persuasion.
Each episode breaks down what works, what fails, and how pro-democracy movements can connect beyond their base.

From Europe to the US, we analyse narratives, framing, and campaign strategy to help you sharpen your message for the real political battleground: cafés, group chats, and family dinners.